KieselGuitars.com     FAQ    Search    Memberlist    Register   Profile   Log in to check your private messages   Log in  
 
 
 Pedal chain help. View next topic
View previous topic
Post new topicReply to topic
Author Message
Remedylane
Newbie


Offline
Joined: 01 Oct 2008
Posts: 16

PostPosted: Mon Feb 09, 2009 10:25 pm   Reply with quoteBack to top

Age old question.. Ive done tons of research , just wanna get your guys thoughts.. First a little background.. I play in a classic metal cover band. I use a Marshall valvestate 50 watt head, and a 4x12 cabinet.. I use a wah, a guyatone flanger, and an electro harmonix lpb-1 (singal boost)
How should I chain these? I know most say that the wah goes before distortion/overdrive But i use my amps distortion.. So in theory I would think my chain would be

Guitar
Wah
LPB-1
Flanger
Amp

Does that sound correct to you all? Suggestions?? What about the effects loop? Read tons of different opinions on that as well.. Of course i know there is no "wrong" way, just want some of your guys opinion.. thanks


Matt
View user's profileSend private message
eudaimonia
Oh, the thinks you can think if only you try!


Offline
Joined: 02 May 2006
Posts: 1440
Location: The Ivory Tower

PostPosted: Mon Feb 09, 2009 10:39 pm   Reply with quoteBack to top

There are lots of ways of doing it.

My method is to put filter effects and tone modifiers before the pre-amp, then to put modulation and delay after the pre-amp. I want a delay pedal to echo the distorted sound from my pre-amp, rather than to have my pre-amp distort an echo. Similarly, I like to have the flanger modulate the distortion rather than distort a modulated tone.

So, if I had your set up, I'd go:
Guitar
Wah
LPB-1 (I might put that before the wah...I'd have to experiment.)
Into pre-amp, then send out of effects loop:
Flanger
Back into effects loop receive.

If you get a delay pedal, I'd stick it after the flanger.

IMO flangers sound much better in the loop than before the pre-amp.

_________________
Some of my gear: EBMM 2008 LE JP6, Mesa Boogie Mark V, Carvin DC400, Carvin C350, Fulltone effects.
View user's profileSend private message
Remedylane
Newbie


Offline
Joined: 01 Oct 2008
Posts: 16

PostPosted: Mon Feb 09, 2009 10:52 pm   Reply with quoteBack to top

so basically you think

Guitar
Wah
Lpb1


Then run the flange in the effects loop?

I thought about trying that as well.. Ive also thought about trying the LPB1 in the effects loop. Ill play with it, but keep the opinions coming!

Thanks again

Matt
View user's profileSend private message
eudaimonia
Oh, the thinks you can think if only you try!


Offline
Joined: 02 May 2006
Posts: 1440
Location: The Ivory Tower

PostPosted: Mon Feb 09, 2009 11:07 pm   Reply with quoteBack to top

Yeah, try the flanger in the effects loop. That's probably the standard way to go.

As for the signal booster--usually the point of those is to overdrive a pre-amp for additional distortion and harmonics. If that's the goal, you'll want it in front. On the other hand, if you just want it to add volume for solos, without changing the tone, then in the loop is the way to go.

_________________
Some of my gear: EBMM 2008 LE JP6, Mesa Boogie Mark V, Carvin DC400, Carvin C350, Fulltone effects.
View user's profileSend private message
Remedylane
Newbie


Offline
Joined: 01 Oct 2008
Posts: 16

PostPosted: Mon Feb 09, 2009 11:11 pm   Reply with quoteBack to top

thats exactly what im using the signal boost for, is for a solo boost.. so now

Guitar
wah
amp

effects loop
Boost
Flanger

Sound good? Ivory tower? Is that a Surrounded referance???


Matt
View user's profileSend private message
eudaimonia
Oh, the thinks you can think if only you try!


Offline
Joined: 02 May 2006
Posts: 1440
Location: The Ivory Tower

PostPosted: Mon Feb 09, 2009 11:27 pm   Reply with quoteBack to top

Remedylane wrote:
thats exactly what im using the signal boost for, is for a solo boost.. so now

Guitar
wah
amp

effects loop
Boost
Flanger

Sound good? Ivory tower? Is that a Surrounded referance???


Matt


Sounds good. Definitely try experimenting with the boost before and after the flanger. Also, the more cables you have, the more tone you tend to lose and noise you tend to add, so if you find some signal loss, consider getting higher quality cables.

As for the "Ivory Tower" bit--I work at a university, and universities are often referred to as ivory towers.

Cheers,
J

_________________
Some of my gear: EBMM 2008 LE JP6, Mesa Boogie Mark V, Carvin DC400, Carvin C350, Fulltone effects.
View user's profileSend private message
Remedylane
Newbie


Offline
Joined: 01 Oct 2008
Posts: 16

PostPosted: Mon Feb 09, 2009 11:30 pm   Reply with quoteBack to top

Sweet.. Thanks for all the help! Anyone else feel free to chime in as well...


Matt
View user's profileSend private message
Display posts from previous:      
Post new topicReply to topic


 Jump to:   



View next topic
View previous topic
You cannot post new topics in this forum
You cannot reply to topics in this forum
You cannot edit your posts in this forum
You cannot delete your posts in this forum
You cannot vote in polls in this forum


The views and opinions expressed on the Carvin Museum Forums are solely the responsibility of the authors, and do not necessarily reflect those of the
Carvin Museum Webmaster, or of Kiesel Guitars/Carvin Guitars.