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PostPosted: Tue Jun 09, 2009 10:23 am   Reply with quoteBack to top

Well (-not really), it appears I have a slight slow leak in my roof right around where the aluminum/tin chimney from the furnace is. Might've had one for a while and it may have just gotten a bit worse.

The leak isnt anything major yet, but looking if there is a fix without major $$$ repair. I put a couple of buckets in the attic around the A/C ducts where it seems to be seeping in, and it didnt accumulate a whole lot overnight, but the wood is getting increasingly wetter with this rain we're having.

Years ago, when I 1st bought the house, I put some silicon caulking around alot of the exhuast/chimneys protruding thru the roof (top and sides, but not bottom - to let any water drain away toward the gutters). Maybe it has deteriorated? I might've run out before I finised, too. I may get back up there and try this again when things dry out.
The water is seeping in on one side, not from the top, if that means anything. Its seems to build up a bit, then "forces" a drop in. Its kinda running down the wood on the inside now rather than dripping in.
I think this roof is about 15 or so years old - before I owned the house. Overall looks in pretty good shape IMO. Maybe its starting to give warning signs, I dunno?

Last night as it started raining (after midnight), I heard a *ping* ... *ping* every so often from the middle of the house. I knew it makes that sound when rain hits the chimney, but this was louder. So I went up into the attic to check and saw it dripping in and hitting the flashing of the chimney over the inner ceiling (floor of the attic). Great - that made it "easy" to get to sleep. I put 1 bucket near the drip and left it to this morning. It didnt even accumulate to fill the bottom, but it dripped elsewhere on the insulation, so I put another bucket up there. I'll check it again when I get home.
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PostPosted: Tue Jun 09, 2009 10:35 am   Reply with quoteBack to top

Inspect the old calking and remove it if it looks bad.
Get a gallon of roofing tar and seal up the areas around the flashing.
You can also use the stuff on cracked shingles, nails, or any suspicous surface.

Good luck !

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PostPosted: Tue Jun 09, 2009 10:51 am   Reply with quoteBack to top

Thanks. It sounds like roofing tar is what I need. It should dry out over the weekend, so I'll try to pick some up then and get up there.
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PostPosted: Tue Jun 09, 2009 11:13 am   Reply with quoteBack to top

In a former life, something like this happened on our house. It turned out to be the chimney flashing. We really needed a new roof anyway (thank you, Atlantic hurricanes) so it was a simple matter for the roofers to fix.

I hope it's not the flashing as roof repairs are a major pain. It sounds like you are no stranger to roof repairs, wickid, but this Reader's Digest info may be helpful.

Good luck and may your repairs be minor! Very Happy

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PostPosted: Tue Jun 09, 2009 11:33 am   Reply with quoteBack to top

soundchick wrote:
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Good luck and may your repairs be minor! Very Happy


Thanks SC.

soundchick wrote:
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It sounds like you are no stranger to roof repairs, ...


Well, I've been up on a roof. Very Happy
(The work I did before was more preventative measure - or maybe I spotted evidence of possible leaks. That was quite a while ago.)
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Just helped a friend fix what sounds like an identical leak... it was where the flashing and the uphill side of the chimney met. He called a roof guy who after two tries couldn't fix it. Then we got up there, used half a tube of black roofing caulk and fixed it right up. 5 minutes and $6.

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Rick500 wrote:
Just helped a friend fix what sounds like an identical leak... it was where the flashing and the uphill side of the chimney met. He called a roof guy who after two tries couldn't fix it. Then we got up there, used half a tube of black roofing caulk and fixed it right up. 5 minutes and $6.


Hmmm ... and after reading SCs Reader's Digest link, I was thinking about calling a roofing guy. Got a lead from somebody at work. Didnt want to cob-job it myself, or only temporarily fix it. Then again, simple caulking might do the trick. Might be worth a try 1st.
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Don't use common caulking (unless it is actually roofing cement in a tube); that's an amateur fix and a temporary one at best.

If you have to fix it yourself, get a 3-1/2" putty knife and a gallon of roofing cement-- the kind that has fibers in it. Now get up there and butter it as neat as possible like you would a slice of bread. Don't neglect to get the stuff up and under any loose shingles nearby. That'll last for years or until you decide to have the roof redone and chimney re-flashed.

Send me a round-trip plane ticket and I'll do it for free. Mr. Green

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+1 on what bundy said. ive been patching commercial roof's all day. 91 in n.c. today. gonna be a fun summer.


leak stopper in a tube will work for small leaks or in a gallon bucket for smearing like above. flashing can be a funny thing, and best bet is have a friend in the attic to see where the leak is and have you put water by the flashing to make sure that is where it is. sounds funny but leaks can travel a loooooong ways sometimes.

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PostPosted: Tue Jun 09, 2009 7:16 pm   Reply with quoteBack to top

Bundy wrote:
Don't use common caulking (unless it is actually roofing cement in a tube); that's an amateur fix and a temporary one at best.


It was this stuff... am I gonna have to get back up there again? Confused


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Actually if I were going to use anything from a tube it would be that BlackJack stuff. Still, it's neoprene-based and has a tendency to shrink & crack up like anything else made of rubber. Just a temp fix.

This is the stuff you want (LINK), but it's a mess. Some people can get it all over 'em just by looking at it. Laugh Hard

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yup, and it is a mess. wear work stuff you dont mind messing up. denatured alcohol works for getting off your hands.

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PostPosted: Tue Jun 09, 2009 11:27 pm   Reply with quoteBack to top

Another "Nod" towards the "Black Jack".... When I re-roofed my house a few years ago.... I used it on every vent, and around the chimney, etc....
Not a drip anywhere....
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In case it wasn't clear enough, Bundy and jca are on it. Mr. Green
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Yeah, if I have to do it over again (and apparently I might!), I'll take the experts' advice. I should have asked in the first place. Mr. Green

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I'm tempted to try the roof cement approach 1st (for under $20, why not?). I havent been up on the roof in a while, maybe this weekend. And if that doesnt fix it, have a pro come in and fix up my cob-job (and pay a couple hundred$).
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delph wrote:
In case it wasn't clear enough, Bundy and jca are on it. Mr. Green


Excuuuuuse Meeee.... Eh?

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Gospelsinger wrote:
delph wrote:
In case it wasn't clear enough, Bundy and jca are on it. Mr. Green


Excuuuuuse Meeee.... Eh?

Tommy

Oh, I already had the page loaded before your post. Smile
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Cool....
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PostPosted: Wed Jun 10, 2009 10:42 pm   Reply with quoteBack to top

Gospelsinger wrote:
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Although Bundy has a good point about Black Jack (which you used) being only a temporary fix. Your situation may be ok after a few years, but maybe not in 10. I don't have experience with Black Jack (always thought full on roofing tar is the way to go), but it seems that roofing cement is the way to go (although using Black Jack around vents and stuff may be a different story...I only have personal experience with windows and things on the sides of houses...Rainbuster and Protecto-Wrap flashing is plenty good for the work out here in California).
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