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PostPosted: Fri Sep 23, 2016 3:12 am   Reply with quoteBack to top

Hello!
Im Looking for any info on my Carvin BB75P bass.
I purchased Carvin BB75P bass from a person whose trade is to import American guitars into Russia and CIS countries and who claimed that the guitar was brand new.
I decided to do the usual adjustment and found out that the truss rod is at the limit and would break if turned any further. I consulted a guitar repair specialist and he told me that the guitar's truss rod had previously been substituted and the current one is not the one from the factory. I am unaware of the circumstances of this alteration. The specialist additionally noticed that the finish on the body and the back side of the neck is different from the finish on the fingerboard and sees this fact connected to the substitution of the truss rod. It is possible that factory finish was damaged when the fingerboard was removed and entire factory finish was removed in order to hide traces of truss rod substitution.
As I did not and still cannot receive any information from the person who sold me this bass guitar, I hope someone can assist me in finding out the year of manufacture and specifications/options of my Carvin bass BB75P (serial No 65361).
I would also appreciate if you could advise what caliber strings should be used on BB75P series basses.
Thanks!
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PostPosted: Sat Sep 24, 2016 10:37 pm   Reply with quoteBack to top

Hello, and welcome to the Carvin family!

Pictures of the front and back of the bass will help the experts here know the time period your bass was made. Sometimes, you can send the serial number to the factory and they can give you the specs from the original order.
Sounds like you've got a bass there with a lot of history, which can be both good and bad. If the truss rod was replaced as you suspect, then the remaining quality is greatly dependent on the person that did the work. Too bad the seller isn't available and I hope they didn't take advantage of you.

There's virtually no way it is brand new as the serial number is in the range of 10 years back, maybe more. Also, they quit making this model about a year ago. It could be possible that you have a newish bass made at the end of the run, but that serial number is still way too old.

The finish sounds like it has been redone, but it may not have anything to do with the truss rod swap. Depending on the options chosen, the back of the neck can have different finish from the rest of the bass. Also, Maple finger boards can have a satin tung oil finish on them from the factory.

As far as strings go, most any standard 5 string set will work but I have no idea what's available to you in Russia. I like something in the .045 to .130 range for my 5 string Carvins.

Again, post some detailed pictures from several angles, and we can attempt to help dig out more information for you.

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PostPosted: Mon Oct 17, 2016 1:57 pm   Reply with quoteBack to top

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PostPosted: Thu Oct 20, 2016 4:43 pm   Reply with quoteBack to top

OK! First off, that's a pretty nice looking bass and I can see why you bought it. There are some obvious things on it that are both good and bad so let's dive in.

The areas of concern are indeed the finish and the color of the Fretboard. I don't think Carvin even stained or colored a Fretboard in a way that made it look yellow like that. It is possible it is factory done, but not likely.

Is your luthier familiar with Carvin instruments? I only ask because of him saying the truss rod was replaced. They have used a couple of different types through the years, so he might not be familiar with more than 1 type. A good picture of the end of the truss rod would help us know if it is original or not. Also, I don't see anything that makes me think the Fretboard was removed. If it was, they did a good job of replacing it. How is the action, how does it play? The strings don't look to be too high, but that can be tough to see in pics.

The body wings look like Maple, as does the neck and finger board. Carvin offers many finish options so it is possible that it was made with a Tung oil finish on the whole thing and they don't put any colors under that as they are not compatible. It is also possible that it was sanded or stripped down by a previous owner. Hard to tell from the pics. It does look like there is a hint of yellow along the top edge of neck where it is against the body. Like they couldn't get down in the corner very well. Also, the back of the neck seems to be more yellow than the back of the body. Can't tell if this is real or just a photographic illusion.

The Black dots on the fingerboard do look original though as this model had them off center like that. It's hard to see but the logo and signature on the headstock also look correct from the factory.

This one has the upgraded electronics and pickups. The big HB pickup will split with the toggle switch near the bottom of the bass. Also, it has the piezo bridge option which allows for some interesting acoustic-type tones. The bottom (or back) large knob will blend in the piezo with the magnetic pups. Roll this knob forward (towards the neck) and it is just the regular pups. Roll it back and it will go to just piezo and blends at all points in between. This option and the serial number indicate it was made after 1999, but could be much more recent than that. Unfortunately, Carvin's serial numbers are random and only give you a range of dates, not an actual year.
The volume knob will pull up to put it in passive mode. This turns off all active functions and the only knobs that work will be the volume and the blend knob that controls the balance between the neck pup and the HB pup.

NOTE! Never remove the batteries with a cable plugged into the bass! It will fry the preamp on the bass and it will only work in passive mode after that. They have a good passive tone, but still, be careful! Plugging in a cable turns on the preamp even if in passive mode and it will drain the batteries.
I have this exact setup on one of my Carvins and it is really quite capable of producing a wide range of tones.

Finally, have you tried calling Carvin? I know it can be tough from the other side of the planet, but at least send them an email and give them a week or 2 to reply. They sometimes never reply so if that happens, let me know and I'll send the serial number to a sales guy that has recently helped me out.

Best of luck and keep the updates coming so we can continue to get you as much info as possible on your bass.

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PostPosted: Sun Dec 04, 2016 1:20 pm   Reply with quoteBack to top

Thank you very much for the detailed clarifications, John!
The luthier is quite experienced and dealt with Carvin instruments many times, but obviously he canít know everything. So I attach the photo of the truss rod

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as well as those of the joint of fingerboard and neck, they also may be of assistance

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I feel the strings are higher than I would prefer but it is impossible to lower them due to the fingerboard being curved up around frets 17-24.
When I took off the pickups I did not find any traces of paint on the guitar. The back side of the neck is indeed coated in something from the headstock to the joint with the body; I pointed the borderline on the photo.

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I agree, the dots on the fingerboard and the signature are the same as on an original instrument but I believe that in this case any traces of the bass being tempered with would probably be on the details.
As to electronics, itís all clear except for the type of pickup in the neck position, and thanks for the tip regarding the batteries and plugged cable.
I honestly lost hope of getting anything from Carvin, John. I emailed them 4 times (the first one was in the beginning of summer) but got no reply, this is why I joined this forum.
If you have a possibility to contact your sales guy, I would greatly appreciate that.

Thanks again!
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PostPosted: Tue Dec 13, 2016 8:45 pm   Reply with quoteBack to top

Hi Mngp,

Thanks for joining the family! Sorry to hear that you weren't able to get a response. What email were you using to get an answer from us? There is a possibility that the email you were trying to reach is not valid.

As for the instrument unfortunately my database manager was not able to pull any information other than the fact that it was an instrument ordered in late 1999 and completed around 2000. Based on the records I see here it was probably in the showroom or on our in stock page until it was sold and shipped in 2002. The invoice we have listed in the system is too old for our system to pull up and since paper records are filed away and not very easy to access I will not be able to pull up the original specs.

I can say that based on what I see I do agree and believe that the truss rod may have been replaced. Back then we may have used a different truss rod system that was a bit more like a Gibson style that required a bucket wrench so that seems like a possibility. The telltale signs around the fingerboard seem to corroborate this suspicion. The instrument looks like it had the original finish stripped and had some sort of stain added to certain parts.

I'm sorry we couldn't be of more help here but with some of the records being filed away before we switched to digital it does make anything built before 2003 a bit harder to bring up. Hope that helps though, if you need anything else feel free to let us know!

Cheers!

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