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PostPosted: Sat Jan 20, 2007 10:17 pm   Reply with quoteBack to top

Chongo wrote:
The old all-maple version is over 12 pounds.


Really? I have owned three V220's ('84, '85, and '86---all maple) that were not over 10 pounds. I don't have use for a scale in my house but I'll bet the '89 I have now is not over 10 pounds either.

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PostPosted: Sat Jan 20, 2007 11:56 pm   Reply with quoteBack to top

mahogany can vary, but on the whole maple is a denser wood, particularly if you are talking about honduran mahogany, which is 545 Kg/cubic meter

maple is close to 755 kg /cubic meter.

i can certainly say that my CM130 is a freakin beastly heavy instrument compared to anything i've ever owned.

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PostPosted: Mon Jan 22, 2007 1:02 pm   Reply with quoteBack to top

here's a picture off the one i played at namm. it seemed lighter than my '84 by a big margin. didn't like the floyd on it. the guy there told me that the kahler will not be an option. can't remember if he said the non-trem will be tune-o-matic or wrap around. if i get one i'll get the non-trem and retro a kahler or a bigsby...
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PostPosted: Mon Jan 22, 2007 1:49 pm   Reply with quoteBack to top

The drop inline is the only one that looks right to me.
But I`m always lookin for the metal axe look.

Oh & NT friends don`t let friends order guitars without SS jumbo`s. Arrr! Yeah!

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PostPosted: Mon Jan 22, 2007 6:35 pm   Reply with quoteBack to top

You know, I just haven't had that experience at all. I've got a neck that I've had for about 3 years now with stainless frets. I play it pretty much every day, and it was on my main guitar for 2 years. I still don't show any wear at all.

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PostPosted: Mon Jan 22, 2007 6:41 pm   Reply with quoteBack to top

I had fret wear on my CT3 after about 8 months ( I'm pretty heavy handed), I've had my CT6 for about 9 months and there is absolutely no fret wear at all. So there is no way that SS frets wear out like standard frets, I know that I will not get another Carvin without stainless steel frets, and they feel so much smoother.

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PostPosted: Mon Jan 22, 2007 6:46 pm   Reply with quoteBack to top

stultzies9 wrote:
You know, I just haven't had that experience at all. I've got a neck that I've had for about 3 years now with stainless frets. I play it pretty much every day, and it was on my main guitar for 2 years. I still don't show any wear at all.


I'm just going off what all the luthiers that I have talked too tell me. They say that dunlop fret wire should last 20 to 25 years and that stainless maybe a few more. But I do know that stainless fret jobs cost from 600 to 800 dollars to have done and standard is 200 to 400 to have them done. So I tend to just stay with the standard. Plus I had stainless on my Dragon and I did not like the feel of them at all and I have them on my DC747 and I do not like them on it. Just my opinion and to each his own. But my experience with them has not shown me that spending the extra money is of any benefit to me.
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PostPosted: Tue Jan 23, 2007 1:36 pm   Reply with quoteBack to top

V-10Rock wrote:
I had fret wear on my CT3 after about 8 months ( I'm pretty heavy handed), I've had my CT6 for about 9 months and there is absolutely no fret wear at all.


Holy CRAP! I'd say, "heavy handed" may be an understatement. My old guitar teacher from wayback told me that when the string touched the fret and sounded cleanly, that was all the farther it should go -- that it was sounding the note correctly and in tune. So I have, generally, a very light touch (despite having huge hamhock hands) and very little fretwear on any guitar I own.

That said, you'd certainly seem to be a poster boy for SS frets. But for me there's just no point.
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PostPosted: Tue Jan 23, 2007 1:43 pm   Reply with quoteBack to top

The previous owner of my DC135 sure did a number on the frets during the 7 years he owned it. But I'm probably with NT on this one. I know I don't wear 'em out that fast, so I probably wouldn't go for the SS upgrade.

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PostPosted: Tue Jan 23, 2007 1:56 pm   Reply with quoteBack to top

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I'm just going off what all the luthiers that I have talked too tell me. They say that dunlop fret wire should last 20 to 25 years and that stainless maybe a few more. But I do know that stainless fret jobs cost from 600 to 800 dollars to have done and standard is 200 to 400 to have them done.


I don't know where you're getting your SS Frets quote at, but that is insanely high. Joe Glaser in Nashville (Glaser Instruments, he also has a PLEK Machine, very cool) will do SS Refrets for around $400.
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PostPosted: Tue Jan 23, 2007 2:03 pm   Reply with quoteBack to top

A DC127 I play all the time (nickel-silver frets) has had a couple fret dressings and is starting to need another, and the CT3 I play every day (stainless frets) has absolutely zero fretwear. Stainless works for me; I love 'em!

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PostPosted: Wed Jan 24, 2007 12:01 pm   Reply with quoteBack to top

Awe man, all this hoopla over the Vs gave me the urge to give my '85 V220 with the curvy logo some TLC last night. Cool It was in desparate need of a string change, thats for sure. Lemon oiled the ebony board, ooh ooh that smell.
This thing still has 9-42s on it, and with the 24.75" scale (I'm pretty sure), they're like noodles (since I've all but totally gone to 10s). Mr. Green And the action is so close, and the upper fret access, it practically plays itself. Had to adjust to a lighter touch.

Anyway, I did that to squash any GAS I was having, not fuel it!! Geez. Shocked
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PostPosted: Wed Jan 24, 2007 12:04 pm   Reply with quoteBack to top

Rob,
Don't kid yourself. You'll be buying the V220 within 2 months. Mr. Green
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PostPosted: Wed Jan 24, 2007 1:24 pm   Reply with quoteBack to top

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Rob,
Don't kid yourself. You'll be buying the V220 within 2 months. Mr. Green

heheh - you GUYS!! Twisted Some help. Mr. Green
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I got all I need ... for now. Shocked


I've had that feeling before! Many times. It never seems to last for more than a few months...

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PostPosted: Sun Feb 04, 2007 4:53 pm   Reply with quoteBack to top

I love the Pearl Blue on the V220 that Bundy has. That is such a cool color.

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PostPosted: Sun Feb 11, 2007 12:54 pm   Reply with quoteBack to top

I'm not ready to order a V220 (I would if I had the $$$), but I'm curious if they are available with active electronics. I don't want to waste anyone's time at Carvin with a phone call to only ask this question. Anyone here know if active electronics are available for he V220? An all mahogany V220 with actives would be killer for me.
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PostPosted: Sun Feb 11, 2007 11:16 pm   Reply with quoteBack to top

Nobody called me? WTF?

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PostPosted: Sun Feb 11, 2007 11:40 pm   Reply with quoteBack to top

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Nobody called me? WTF?
HAH!!!! I think they were afraid of what would happen when you heard... I mean think of how much more money you're going to have to spend now...

actually we just thought you were in shock or busy pawning off items to buy more pointies.

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PostPosted: Tue Feb 13, 2007 12:16 pm   Reply with quoteBack to top

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pawning off items to buy more pointies.


A reasonable theory.

Always wished I could have gotten an all-Mahogany V with a flamed Ruby top. Guess I can, now. Never could figure why, back in the early 90s, a translucent red wasn't offered.

Hmmmmmmmmm.....mahogany V.

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