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PostPosted: Sun Oct 21, 2007 11:57 am   Reply with quoteBack to top

I never took a guitar lesson, ever. So I do a lot of stuff "wrong" when playing guitar, technique-wise. But I figure it contributes to my unique sound, whatever that may be.

Anyway, I notice that I pull bends down rather than pushing them up, except on the high E and B strings. Whatever muscles control pulling with the fingers rather than pushing, seem to be stronger, and I can control the pitch better. If I didn't run out of fretboard with the E and B, I'd pull bends on those strings too.

Anyone else do the same? Should I work on pushing the strings instead? Is there any benefit? (I know the answer is, "do whatever works for you," but just curious if I'm missing out on anything...)

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PostPosted: Sun Oct 21, 2007 12:10 pm   Reply with quoteBack to top

I pull down also, it feels much more controlled to me as well. I push up on the E and B and whenever I need to do a very fast very large almost whammy bar sounding bend. For that I more of just put my finger down on the fret and lift abruptly on the neck, letting the guitar's weight give me a massive bend. Other than that, I've always been the same way.
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PostPosted: Sun Oct 21, 2007 12:16 pm   Reply with quoteBack to top

I had to go pick up a guitar and see how I did it. Pull down on E and A, push up on everything else.

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PostPosted: Sun Oct 21, 2007 12:27 pm   Reply with quoteBack to top

I drill hohes in the fretbaord for every string, every position and push in and out for bends.
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PostPosted: Sun Oct 21, 2007 12:29 pm   Reply with quoteBack to top

I pull down on E A and D and up on G, B, E.
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PostPosted: Sun Oct 21, 2007 1:08 pm   Reply with quoteBack to top

Tazmo wrote:
I drill hohes in the fretbaord for every string, every position and push in and out for bends.


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PostPosted: Sun Oct 21, 2007 6:40 pm   Reply with quoteBack to top

i bended a note

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PostPosted: Fri Oct 26, 2007 12:09 am   Reply with quoteBack to top

I wanna know if there's a very slick way to keep from sounding the string next to the one you're bending. I keep nailing that sucker and having to find a way to mute it as part of any lick that I play that has a bend... PIA. Or is that muting business part of the "developing technique" thing.
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PostPosted: Fri Oct 26, 2007 7:39 am   Reply with quoteBack to top

My fingers just kind of mute the adjacent string on their own. Sort of. 95% of the time anyway. I guess it's something I picked up subconsciously.

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PostPosted: Fri Oct 26, 2007 8:18 am   Reply with quoteBack to top

I am an equal-opportunity bender. Obviously on the respective E strings there is only one way to go for the most part, but in between it depends on the lick that is being played. Years ago I only bent upwards, but now it is whatever comes up.
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PostPosted: Fri Oct 26, 2007 9:32 am   Reply with quoteBack to top

I do both; pull & push, depending on what the heck my hands feel like doing. Pulling the heavier strings is quite common for me. I never actually thought about it 'til now.

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PostPosted: Tue Oct 30, 2007 6:44 pm   Reply with quoteBack to top

ElfDude wrote:
Tazmo wrote:
I drill hohes in the fretbaord for every string, every position and push in and out for bends.


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+1

that is something I would like to see if you are serious.
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PostPosted: Tue Oct 30, 2007 7:00 pm   Reply with quoteBack to top

I was thinking about this over the weekend while I was playing (never thought about it before). Mostly, I pull the heavy 3 strings and push the 3 lightest. Depending on the riff, I sometimes pull the G string (rarely, if ever the B). I don't think there is anything pushing or pulling specifically offers. It's all about retaining the momentum to move around the board and across the strings coupled with maintaining a balanced hand/thumb position. If I bend the D string up, it throws my hand a little off balance. Intuitively, I pull it down. There's no rhyme or reason to it - that's how it is.
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PostPosted: Wed Oct 31, 2007 2:18 pm   Reply with quoteBack to top

Eric Gales pulls down for bends and vibrato and he's got about the sweetest vibrato I've ever heard. He has no choice really because of how his guitar is set up though.
Your hand is made to be stronger while closing so it makes sense that you would have more control with that type of motion. Look at siter players and how far they pull notes.
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PostPosted: Wed Nov 21, 2007 10:32 am   Reply with quoteBack to top

always up on the skinny ones (E,B)

always down on G when using pointer finger, but every other finger likes to push it up.

Every other string is bent down almost always. Just a guess, one can never be 100% sure I guess ...

The "pointer finger G string bend down" is definitely influenced by Eric Johnson ... 99% of the time it's used as a "grace" note.

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PostPosted: Wed Nov 21, 2007 10:44 am   Reply with quoteBack to top

Rick500 wrote:
I never took a guitar lesson, ever. So I do a lot of stuff "wrong" when playing guitar, technique-wise. But I figure it contributes to my unique sound, whatever that may be.

Anyway, I notice that I pull bends down rather than pushing them up, except on the high E and B strings. Whatever muscles control pulling with the fingers rather than pushing, seem to be stronger, and I can control the pitch better. If I didn't run out of fretboard with the E and B, I'd pull bends on those strings too.

Anyone else do the same? Should I work on pushing the strings instead? Is there any benefit? (I know the answer is, "do whatever works for you," but just curious if I'm missing out on anything...)


When you have time check out how Jerry Donahue bends. Danny Gatton used to bend down at times so his frets were filed straight upward. No angle. I had my frets on a Strat done that way by Danny’s friend and Tech Jay Montrose. It is amazing how much more bend you can get with straight frets. They actually feel better too.

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PostPosted: Wed Nov 21, 2007 12:57 pm   Reply with quoteBack to top

do you mean that the frets aren't radiused with the fretboard or on top? the use of 'angle' is throwing off my visualization.
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sirmyghin wrote:
do you mean that the frets aren't radiused with the fretboard or on top? the use of 'angle' is throwing off my visualization.


The ends of the frets that are snipped off and filed inward, stand straight upward with very light filing just to smooth them out. But no inward bevel is put on them.

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PostPosted: Wed Nov 21, 2007 1:12 pm   Reply with quoteBack to top

That's the one mistake I made on the first guitar I built (the "Strat"), that wasn't easily fixable. I beveled the fret ends too much. I could fix it, but it would require ripping all the frets out. Lesson learned.

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