KieselGuitars.com     FAQ    Search    Memberlist    Register   Profile   Log in to check your private messages   Log in  
 
 
 Learning Jazz View next topic
View previous topic
Post new topicReply to topic
Author Message
Gmezz4
Texas Aggie


Offline
Joined: 10 Aug 2010
Posts: 61
Location: Washington

PostPosted: Mon Aug 16, 2010 10:15 pm   Reply with quoteBack to top

Im interested in jazz, but I don't know where to start. It's a bit more obscure than rock these days... A boost would be much appreciated!
View user's profileSend private message
notafatboy
Member of the Family


Offline
Joined: 25 May 2007
Posts: 439
Location: somewhere

PostPosted: Mon Aug 16, 2010 10:22 pm   Reply with quoteBack to top

pat metheny is a favorite of mine and his music seems to be more accessible then other more avant-garde artists. are you looking to learn to play jazz leads or rhythm? I would go with like tru-fire tv lessons and just use the free ones for a good start. Type in how to play jazz guitar on youtube and you might get some good stuff. Hope this helped.

_________________
http://www.reverbnation.com/hoostavah
View user's profileSend private messageVisit poster's website
Gmezz4
Texas Aggie


Offline
Joined: 10 Aug 2010
Posts: 61
Location: Washington

PostPosted: Mon Aug 16, 2010 10:42 pm   Reply with quoteBack to top

Thanks, Im picking the tube right now.

I would like to learn both, but I think I should learn to play jazz rhythm before learning leads, yes?
View user's profileSend private message
Gmezz4
Texas Aggie


Offline
Joined: 10 Aug 2010
Posts: 61
Location: Washington

PostPosted: Mon Aug 16, 2010 11:26 pm   Reply with quoteBack to top

http://www.jazzguitar.com/

If anyone else interested... this site seems to cover the basics and thats where I'm starting. And in this jazz stuff I do emphasize STARTING Laughing
View user's profileSend private message
Brian D
Too Much Free Time


Offline
Joined: 19 Feb 2005
Posts: 1430
Location: Oceanside, Ca.

PostPosted: Tue Aug 17, 2010 8:33 am   Reply with quoteBack to top

Jazz is like rock, there are so many different genres of jazz. You have to listen to it before deciding on what you want to play. You can go the route of smooth jazz (least favorite), or straight ahead jazz (my favorite), or even fusion (second favorite). Then there is big band and small trio, quartet, quintet, and so on.

I would start with listening to the likes of John Coltrane. He carries a large selection of good stuff. Then on the fusion side, give Frank Gambale and Alan Holdsworth a listen. I would try and imitate them just yet, but worth a good listen.

Playing jazz is not simple, but sometimes the less said (chord wise) the better. Syncopation is the key to playing good jazz.

Now with that, I am not a jazz guitarist, but I did stay at a Taliban inn last night.

Have fun, I enjoyed what little time I spent delving into jazz. It will make you a better, well rounded, guitarist in the long run.

_________________
'75 Martin D-35
'08 Martin D12X1
'05 Carvin C750S



Music
http://www.reverbnation.com/briand

Photography
www.briandphoto.net
View user's profileSend private messageSend e-mail
Gmezz4
Texas Aggie


Offline
Joined: 10 Aug 2010
Posts: 61
Location: Washington

PostPosted: Tue Aug 17, 2010 10:39 am   Reply with quoteBack to top

Well, the stuff I listen to is Weather Report, Return to Forever, Jeff Golub,
Victor Wooten, John Scofield, and Bela Fleck & the Flecktones and some more similar stuff.
View user's profileSend private message
sirmyghin
Way Too Much Free Time


Offline
Joined: 10 Aug 2007
Posts: 3072
Location: Canadia

PostPosted: Tue Aug 17, 2010 10:40 am   Reply with quoteBack to top

Gmezz4 wrote:
Well, the stuff I listen to is Weather Report, Return to Forever, Jeff Golub,
Victor Wooten, John Scofield, and Bela Fleck & the Flecktones and some more similar stuff.


Fusion then I would say, check out some Govan, great stuff.
View user's profileSend private message
Brian D
Too Much Free Time


Offline
Joined: 19 Feb 2005
Posts: 1430
Location: Oceanside, Ca.

PostPosted: Thu Aug 19, 2010 2:25 am   Reply with quoteBack to top

Sounds like you have your bases covered.

_________________
'75 Martin D-35
'08 Martin D12X1
'05 Carvin C750S



Music
http://www.reverbnation.com/briand

Photography
www.briandphoto.net
View user's profileSend private messageSend e-mail
surfnorthwest
Waiting for Jesus


Offline
Joined: 10 Apr 2006
Posts: 1504
Location: Northwest

PostPosted: Tue Aug 24, 2010 1:36 pm   Reply with quoteBack to top

I find writting Jazz music much harder then rock. I recently wrote a jazz song that took me a good month to put together rather then a few days when i write something. You have to choose your instruments and tones carefully also.

Here is a jazz tune I wrote recently as an example

http://soundclick.com/share?songid=9558134

_________________
My Gear
View user's profileSend private message
sirmyghin
Way Too Much Free Time


Offline
Joined: 10 Aug 2007
Posts: 3072
Location: Canadia

PostPosted: Tue Aug 24, 2010 1:44 pm   Reply with quoteBack to top

surfnorthwest wrote:
I find writting Jazz music much harder then rock. I recently wrote a jazz song that took me a good month to put together rather then a few days when i write something. You have to choose your instruments and tones carefully also.

Here is a jazz tune I wrote recently as an example

http://soundclick.com/share?songid=9558134


Like the tune, it has a good groove, my one critique / tip would be to use something akin to a compressor when you are trying to add the sax voice, that way you can delay the attack/ add a time to reach maximum volume (doesn't have to be much) to remove the initial high strike it is providing now. Just something that might make it more convincing/ not as much a synth/axe synth (guessing axe synth in this case based on the attack quality).
View user's profileSend private message
BluesPicker
Way Too Much Free Time


Offline
Joined: 26 Dec 2005
Posts: 3487

PostPosted: Tue Aug 24, 2010 6:19 pm   Reply with quoteBack to top

I love blues-flavored jazz, if you will. In fact, other than fusion, I find that the lines often blur between blues and jazz. Being a solid blues player for 40-something years, I love mixing the two forms.

Paul
View user's profileSend private message
MikeBass
Why?


Offline
Joined: 05 Jul 2007
Posts: 824
Location: Santa Barbara, CA

PostPosted: Tue Aug 24, 2010 7:13 pm   Reply with quoteBack to top

Mahavishnu Orchestra!! Birds of Fire and The Inner-Mounting Flame are two great albums. John McLaughlin is the greatest guitarist ever, jazz or otherwise, in my opinion.
View user's profileSend private messageAIM Address
sirmyghin
Way Too Much Free Time


Offline
Joined: 10 Aug 2007
Posts: 3072
Location: Canadia

PostPosted: Tue Aug 24, 2010 9:17 pm   Reply with quoteBack to top

MikeBass wrote:
Mahavishnu Orchestra!! Birds of Fire and The Inner-Mounting Flame are two great albums. John McLaughlin is the greatest guitarist ever, jazz or otherwise, in my opinion.


That Mahavishnu is freaking mind blowing, not that I have heard all that much though.
View user's profileSend private message
Display posts from previous:      
Post new topicReply to topic


 Jump to:   



View next topic
View previous topic
You cannot post new topics in this forum
You cannot reply to topics in this forum
You cannot edit your posts in this forum
You cannot delete your posts in this forum
You cannot vote in polls in this forum


The views and opinions expressed on the Carvin Museum Forums are solely the responsibility of the authors, and do not necessarily reflect those of the
Carvin Museum Webmaster, or of Kiesel Guitars/Carvin Guitars.